ok-well i'm not looking to restart the thread-was just wondering why it was locked and i wopuld ask that it not be re-hashed here because of my question.
Peace
Submitted by MREINER16 on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 1:07pm.
The gist of the discussion[is the protestant community led by the Holy Spirit]was not being proven according to the desire of the moderators so it was locked so that I would not be allowed to prove by faith and reason and church doctrine that the protestant communites are not presumed by the catholic church as being led by the Holy Spirit. By the way, this site is not an open forum, it is limited to those who accept Catholic doctrine as portayed by the moderators.In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen
Submitted by yanastrovich on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 12:19pm.
"this site is not an open forum, it is limited to those who accept Catholic doctrine as portayed by the moderators.In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"
I would suggest that Yanastrovich is overstating the amount of supervision afforded here. In my experience it is necessary to plead for intervention.
Regards,
Old Sigma (Cradle Catholic [Latin rite] & generally inveterate amateur)
No need to prove that "the protestant communites are not presumed by the catholic church as being led by the Holy Spirit." Catholics teach it to be so. See CCC #819:
"Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements."274 Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276
273 LG 8 § 2. 274 UR 3 § 2; cf. LG 15. 275 Cf. UR 3. 276 Cf. LG 8.
omalley, you state the catholic church teaches the protestant churches are led by the holy spirit. please copy the teaching and post it here so we can read it. i cannot take your word as gospel.King Henry 11 Holy Roman Emporer of Germany, Italy and Switzerland of the 10th Century: Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ and May God Bless Us All!
Submitted by sainthenry on Fri, 04/11/2008 - 12:48pm.
You jest, right? If not, please reread the post. The citations you request are the 2nd paragraph of the post.
The footnotes I gave in our universal Catholic Catechism in paragraph #819 refer to the supporting documents i.e. "LG" indicates Lumen Gentium and "UR" indicates Unitatis redintegratio.
Did you know that King Henry II's father was known as Duke -->Henry II--> the Quarrelsome?
posted by: Winslow
March 1, 2008
11:30 am
The discussion was getting a little contentious and was going nowhere so the moderator (wisely) decided to put us out of our misery.
Peace
posted by: MREINER16
March 1, 2008
1:07 pm
ok-well i'm not looking to restart the thread-was just wondering why it was locked and i wopuld ask that it not be re-hashed here because of my question.
Peace
posted by: yanastrovich
March 2, 2008
12:19 pm
The gist of the discussion[is the protestant community led by the Holy Spirit]was not being proven according to the desire of the moderators so it was locked so that I would not be allowed to prove by faith and reason and church doctrine that the protestant communites are not presumed by the catholic church as being led by the Holy Spirit. By the way, this site is not an open forum, it is limited to those who accept Catholic doctrine as portayed by the moderators.In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen
posted by: Jakes
March 2, 2008
7:24 pm
Looks as though the moderator made a good decision.
Peace (I hope), Jakes
posted by: pouliot
April 4, 2008
7:52 pm
Re: yanastrovich's post:
I would suggest that Yanastrovich is overstating the amount of supervision afforded here. In my experience it is necessary to plead for intervention.
posted by: OMalley
April 5, 2008
8:44 am
O'Malley
Dear yanastrovich,
No need to prove that "the protestant communites are not presumed by the catholic church as being led by the Holy Spirit." Catholics teach it to be so. See CCC #819:
"Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth"273 are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements."274 Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him,275 and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."276
273 LG 8 § 2.
274 UR 3 § 2; cf. LG 15.
275 Cf. UR 3.
276 Cf. LG 8.
Peace,
O'Malley
posted by: sainthenry
April 11, 2008
12:48 pm
omalley, you state the catholic church teaches the protestant churches are led by the holy spirit. please copy the teaching and post it here so we can read it. i cannot take your word as gospel.King Henry 11 Holy Roman Emporer of Germany, Italy and Switzerland of the 10th Century: Praise to you Lord Jesus Christ and May God Bless Us All!
posted by: OMalley
April 13, 2008
5:46 am
O'Malley
sainthenry,
You jest, right? If not, please reread the post. The citations you request are the 2nd paragraph of the post.
The footnotes I gave in our universal Catholic Catechism in paragraph #819 refer to the supporting documents i.e. "LG" indicates Lumen Gentium and "UR" indicates Unitatis redintegratio.
Did you know that King Henry II's father was known as Duke -->Henry II--> the Quarrelsome?
Peace,
O'Malley